They're talking basketball, they're fucking dumb as shit, they're talking basketball, but they will make dumb as jokes.

Hello everybody and welcome to POD Don't Lie with Sam and Stav.

Hello Sam this week that motherfuckers out he's quitting I'm sorry it feels like to our listeners out there it feels like we're you're you're divorced parents and we keep making excuses why one isn't here why one's not there Sam schedules wild we fucked up but the good news is I got two I got two step dads for you this week that you're going to love there they got a great basketball podcast cookies hoops they just wrote a fucking book the joy of basketball

you're going to love it you should fucking buy it. So everybody welcome our guest Ben Dietrich and Andrew Quo everybody how are we doing boys.

Hey man thanks for having us excited to be here. Yeah I'm very excited to be here. Thank you the artisans at their craft. That's right. That's right.

This is because it gets pinnacle pinnacle upon him. It is funny because Andrew you're literally a really good art like an actual visual artist which is your stuff's fucking sick dude and you can see it in the book and I even looked up your

just like your art in general it's fucking it's awesome. So it must be funny to do actual like fine art and then also podcast.

You're on both spectrums of art you're like at the top of like what it should be and then like right here playing in the mud in the sewer.

It's the most bullshit art form in the world and for some reason I don't know how the fucking happen it's the only one that makes any money now.

Exactly. Yeah. Hopefully my art will my podcast will fund the art. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you for that and like yeah I want to have a take that's just like well actually you know it's in between but yeah this is bullshit.

What we do is straight up bullshit and I love it.

I like Andrew struggling to come up with a contrarian opinion that podcasting is actually the greatest form of art and he's like actually I

Yeah. No. No. It's dog shit. The world's the world's horrible people just don't want to be alone with their thoughts. So here goes pot. I remember having a fucking being a really shitty paralegal and listening to

truly seven hours of podcasts a day like just not even that's what that's why these exist. So yeah one time I listen to no joke like a hardcore history and it was it was literally six hours.

And I listen to the entire thing and I was it's not like I'm in a warehouse I was a paralegal like I should have been like reading thing like there's no way I was doing my job at all.

So that's what we're here to keep like an earbud in and like pretend to not at people while listening to like hardcore pods like how did you fake this.

Well see okay so I realized this was in Baltimore I was list I was it was right before I wanted to move to New York.

You know I was doing stand up and it's like you want to move to the you know the fucking New York but I'm you know broke a shit obviously and so I never had like a real job.

And I was like one of my friends a paralegal and I did you know I was a poly side major I did okay in school so I could I could get a I could get like a paralegal job.

So I figured fuck it all were I have an actual job for a year. Save up some money. And so I get the job and I realized really quickly this is like an evil law firm like they're most of their

money is coming from like the foreclosure crisis so it's like almost everything I'm doing is like.

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