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There's politics in the blood, says my guest on political thinking this week, who's got

family connections to a man who almost became Prime Minister, Rob Butler, and one who did

Winston Churchill.

Now, that might come as no surprise if he were a political leader, but Justin Welby is

the nation's spiritual leader, who is Archbishop of Canterbury, presides over moments of

national celebration and grief.

The man expected to find words that can give hope and comfort to Christians and non-Christians

alike.

He just published a book comparing Covid to a tyre blowing out on a car driving at speed.

It calls, he says, for urgent action to tackle inequality and injustice.

He's about to take three-month study leave to write another book on reconciliation.

His critics say they wish he could do a little more God and a bit less politics.

Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, welcome to Political Thinking.

Thank you.

What do you make of that view that will even be being said by some listening to you now?

Well, he shouldn't have political thinking.

He should just have thinking about Christianity and about God.

There's a significant number who will have turned off already because of the name.

I think there's three basic reasons why Archbishop's have always been involved, apart from

the ones who are just par hungry, which is a different category at all, and they got their

heads chopped up, forgot burnt at the stake or whatever.

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