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Afford Anything

The Importance of Having a Life Outside of Work, with Simone Stolzoff

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Today I chat with Simone Stolzoff, a consultant for organizations ranging from Google to the Surgeon General’s Office, and the author of "The Good Enough Job." He’s a graduate of Stanford and U. Penn. Simone has spent a lot of time thinking about the role of work in our lives, and he's got some really interesting ideas about how we can see work as just one part of a happy and fulfilling life. We'll be talking about what happens when work becomes more than just a job, how to challenge the idea that work has to be our calling or our dream, and how to build a more well-rounded life. If you’ve ever “over-identified” with your job, then you’ll find today’s conversation thought-provoking. Enjoy! For more information, visit the show notes at https://affordanything.com/episode453 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Okay.

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You know how sometimes you go to a party and the first question people ask you is, so what

0:05.2

do you do?

0:06.2

It's this incredibly lazy and boring icebreaker, which inevitably leads to standing around

0:13.0

a plate of hors d'oeuvres talking about work, which is the most boring thing you could possibly

0:19.0

do at a party and very unmemorable.

0:21.4

Please don't do that.

0:22.8

But the fact that that is such a de facto icebreaker is emblematic of the fact that we

0:28.7

often can over-identify with work.

0:31.9

Today's guest, Simone Stoltzoff, has extensively studied the role of work in our lives, and

0:39.9

we have a conversation around how to refrain from over-identifying with your job.

0:46.9

Simone is a Stanford N. Penn graduate who works as a consultant for major organizations

0:53.2

ranging from Google to the Surgeon General on the topic of more gratifying workplaces.

1:00.5

He's also written for publications ranging from Wired to the Atlantic, and is the author

1:06.6

of the book The Good Enough Job.

1:09.0

Here he is.

1:10.0

Hi, Simone.

1:12.0

Hi, Paula.

1:13.0

Nice to be here.

1:14.0

Thank you so much for spending this time with us.

1:16.8

Simone, so you wrote The Good Enough Job, which is all about not over-identifying with

1:24.2

your work.

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