Welcome to Our Henhouse. This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Mary Ann Sullivan.

And this week, Marianne will be speaking with psychologist Dr. Pia Salk.

It's so frustrating to talk to psychologists, isn't it? I mean,

or like any professionals, for that matter, who don't get it about animals. Like,

I know I've been in that position and I can't handle it. So many people tell me that they can't

handle it. But thankfully, this week, we're going to discuss some of the all important issues in people's

lives that revolve around the animals they live with and the animals they hopefully don't eat.

By the way, Marianne, I have turned therapists vegan before. I mean, I don't think they were

lying to me. I had one psychologist for many, many years. It would be really good if your therapist didn't lie to you. That's true. But I turned a psychologist vegan and I turned to coach vegan. And they're both still vegan. That's exciting. You know, everyone's talking about mental health issues. If we have mental health issues, we might as well use it to our advantage and veganized.

It's true. If we're crazy, we might as well, that's an activism tool. You're going to get such hate mail. You're not supposed to. I am not. Yes, you are. You're not supposed to say. I just said if you were, I'm not saying everybody out there is. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. I noticed as you were reading that introduction. Other people don't realize this because we're not on YouTube or anything,

but you acted out with your hands.

I tell you all the time.

I worry sometimes that I agree dramatically.

I know.

I worry sometimes that I'm going to like hurt someone who's in my, I'm I'm 18% Italian I know that because of

Ancestry.com that is 8 I just did my Ancestry.com I've resisted it for all these years because I

said to you it's so stupid to spend money to find out that I'm 100% Irish and you are and I said no I'm 99%

Irish and the other I'm 1% Irish. And the other? I'm one percent finish. Helsinki, here we come.

Finish. I'm going to, I'm going to visit Helsinki and find my relatives. Good. I love that.

1%. There must have been some random Viking up to no good on the Barra Peninsula of Ireland.

I think that the 18% of Italian that I haven't inherited is all in the way, is in my hands

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