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The Town with Matthew Belloni

‘The Holdovers’ Plagiarism Claim and How to Protect Your Script

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Jeremiah Reynolds, partner at Eisner LLP and copyright law expert, to untangle the recent plagiarism accusation by screenwriter Simon Stephenson over Alexander Payne’s ‘The Holdovers,’ then outline whether or not this case has merit. Matt and Jeremiah discuss famous past examples of copyright infringement, whether the WGA can help with plagiarism, and what a writer can do if they feel their idea is being stolen. Matt finishes the show with a prediction about the films that will premiere at South by Southwest. For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ click here. Email us your thoughts! [email protected] Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Jeremiah Reynolds Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:39.2

It is Friday, March 15th.

0:42.0

It's a story as old as Hollywood.

0:44.1

Screenwriter finishes a script, sends it off to his or her agent or manager.

0:48.4

They take it out to the town, try to get a star or director attached.

0:52.6

Then there's no takers.

0:54.3

And weirdly, another very similar project pops up,

0:57.4

eerily similar.

0:58.8

And the writer discovers that the talent involved in that project had access to his first

1:03.9

script.

1:04.8

Hmm.

1:05.4

Happens all the time.

1:06.5

And last week, a writer named Simon Stevenson, he wrote the Pixar movie, Luca, he claimed that the Holdovers, the Oscar-nominated script by David Hemingson, that was plagiarized from his script called Frisco, he says, which was on the prestigious blacklist in 2013, and on two separate occasions was in the possession of Alexander Payne,

1:28.2

who went on to commission the holdover script and directed.

1:31.7

Stevenson told the WGA that his script was, quote, plagiarized line by line from Frisco,

1:37.7

and that anyone who reads both will believe the theft to be, quote, brazen.

1:42.2

I'm not so sure. I read most of Frisco. It's online. There are

1:46.1

thematic similarities and even some similar scene constructions. But Frisco is about a middle

1:52.1

age doctor who looks after a terminally ill teen girl. The holdovers is, of course, about an

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