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The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Juice List: The Most Powerful People in Hollywood

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw to craft The Town’s first ever Hollywood Power List: their definitive (and subjective!) ranking of who has the most “juice” a.k.a. the most influential figures in the entertainment business. Matt and Lucas debate who deserves to be in the top 10, who doesn’t, whether an actor will break the top 10, and who currently deserves the coveted top spot. For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ click here. Email us your thoughts! [email protected] Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Lucas Shaw Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:22.6

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0:32.4

It is Monday, March 18th.

0:35.5

Hollywood loves the power list. It's a town of egos and hierarchies, both perceived and actual.

0:41.3

I've edited many, many power lists in my day. When I was at Hollywood Reporter, we did something like 20 or 25 of them a year, maybe more, various elements of the business.

0:51.1

And the biggest one, at least the one that drove the most people crazy,

0:59.8

was something called the THR 100. We called the 100 most powerful people in entertainment.

1:04.1

I think they stopped doing it after I left in 2020. But this was my favorite because it evaluated what I might call the juice that people had in town, the cachet, the influence,

1:10.0

the people you most want to be in business with.

1:12.6

The official methodology we used was the size and reach of a person's purview, their empire they

1:18.6

oversee, the success of his or her work, and that was recent, plus the power to get things made,

1:24.7

greenlight power. Company ownership would help there.

1:32.9

And then some intangibles like heat, clout, indicators of influence that we could glean from conversations with insiders.

1:35.2

An imperfect science, of course, but informed and fun.

1:38.8

So today, Lucas Shaw from Bloomberg and I are going to rip off that template pretty shamelessly,

1:43.3

except we're just doing our top

1:44.6

10. Who are the most influential figures in entertainment right now? The rule is they all have to be

1:50.2

in the business. So no Andy Jassy at Amazon, he's a CEO, or Tim Cook at Apple, their companies are

1:56.1

in the business, but they aren't themselves. And celebrity definitely matters, but it's certainly

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