Dave Wilson I'm putting you on the spot. Here's what you have to do. Say Red River rivalry three times fast.

Red River, I can't do it. I'm not even to try.

That being said, what is your first memory as a native Texan of said matchup?

I think it was really about the State Fair of Texas. You know, as a kid, we lived in Dallas and you know, you just knew when you could start

to see the Ferris wheel moving that it was that time a year and then there was all of a sudden this weekend when

Gallus became like the center of the college football universe in early October.

What's your favorite thing at a state fair? I need to know more about your relationship with this great

American idea. Well you can't talk about the state fair of Texas without

talking about the Fletcher's Corny Dog. Fletcher's corny dogs are fresh cooked

while you watch, not frozen.

So don't put a tiger in your tank, put a corny dog in your tummy.

That's the iconic thing you have to do this year they've introduced a mustard beer to go with

it so we can actually maybe sample that a little bit after the game but but yeah the corny dog

is the is the must.

Was it a situation where you went to the games or was it one where you just kind of gathered as a family and everybody knew this is the weekend that it went down.

No, my dad and I used to go to the games whenever we could and then later when I was

working at the Dallas Morning News as a designer I would sometimes go to the games just for fun and then get

back to work afterward. Dave that's pretty cool growing up as a Texan know. It's

really cool. No matter what I I mean, it's the most unique atmosphere in a rivalry game with the field split right down the middle, with the crimson cream on one side, the burnt orange on the other,

there's really nothing like it.

The one I can remember most, I think it was 2001,

the one where, what's his name,

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