Welcome to part two of our conversation with Jeff Belanger about Roland Doe and the true story of the Exorcist.

And this may be a whole other episode that we can talk about because I'd love to hear what your interview or how the interview went with George Lutz.

But, I mean, has he, he never really truly came out and said in great detail what happened that night on Amityville did he?

Oh he did it and it's in my book thanks for the plug oh my gosh so we spoke when it was

shortly before the third movie came out and I forgive me I don't remember the year you could

Google it 2005 six seven I don't know somewhere in there and so I knew someone who knew him and I said boy I would love to talk to him and they arranged it and we spoke for hours and hours on the record recorded all of it

About and this was another shock docs by the way, like they used some of my audio as a matter of fact.

From that George spoke about everything from the summer before buying the house through buying the house through what he went through and then all the way up to the third movie coming out and I

Sis here's what I mean some stuff I know what happened and then I can sort of speculate on the rest.

Everything he described to me, and I put it all, you know, my book Our Haunted Lives, it starts off with just the huge interview with him.

And it's all his words basically. Like more or less, it's just his words. I'm not even in it because I'm like,

what can I say at this point except you should hear it from the horse's mouth. There's all this stuff. It's a hoax. It's not a hoax. It's this or that. Hey, look, man, I went to college near there and I remember standing in front of that house when I was a freshman in college long before I ever

started writing about the paranormal and six people were murdered in that house.

That is a fact, right? That's not up for debate. In fact, Ronald Butch Defeo Jr. just died in prison.

Like that was recently, you know, so the guy that did it finally died.

And that's, I mean, look, I don't want to live in a house like that that's

creepy six murdered by the brother and son so so the stuff he talked about was

nowhere near as extreme as Jay Anson's book, The Amity

Mill Horror, which was nowhere near as extreme as the movie.

And by the time the third movie came out, like it had just been blown into like whole new proportions right sure and but it got me thinking

because like you know I mean I work in television too and I sort of understand you have to entertain

sure if you walked into a house, I'm now stealing right from Eddie Murphy's skit, right?

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