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Active Self Protection Podcast

The Gutowski Files: Delaware Purchase Permit Upheld In Federal Court

Active Self Protection Podcast

John Correia and Mike Willever

True Crime

4.9542 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

On this  installment of the Gutowski Files we sit down with investigative reporter Stephen Gutowski of thereload.com and discuss a recent ruling in federal court related to a Delaware law requiring people to acquire a permit not to CARRY a firearm but to purchase one.

Active Self Protection exists to help good, sane, sober, moral, prudent people in all walks of life to more effectively protect themselves and their loved ones from criminal violence. On the ASP Podcast you will hear the true stories of life or death self defense encounters from the men and women that lived them. If you are interested in the Second Amendment, self defense and defensive firearms use, martial arts or the use of less lethal tools used in the real world to defend life and family, you will find this show riveting.  Join host and career federal agent Mike Willever as he talks to real life survivors and hear their stories in depth. You'll hear about these incidents and the self defenders from well before the encounter occurred on through the legal and emotional aftermath. Music: bensound.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, already, gang, welcome back once again to the Gatowski file, starring our very own, Stephen Gatowski. Stephen is the founder, owner and editor-in-chief over at the reload.com. The reload.com, as always, there is a hyperlink in the description. How are you? I'm doing all right. How are you? Not too bad. Before we get started, I have something here and got this in the mail. I'm reading glasses on. It's being one moment here. Someone named Roger Goodell. You know who that is? I don't know. Never heard of them anyway. Please stop talking about the NFL without the express written consent of the NFL and the NFL Players Association or we'll sue you out of existence. So I mean, look,

0:56.3

I don't know about you, but I'm not trying to get sued, Stephen. I think we have implied

1:00.4

oral consent. Uh, and that's good enough for me. As long as we're filming in international waters.

1:06.9

Yes. Like the, you and I are on a barge off the coast of Delaware, right, as we speak. Yes. Pirate radio. All right. Anywho. So there is a couple stories we're going to talk about today. The first of which is kind of breaking. You inform me of it before we hit the record button. Evidently, President Trump has nominated someone to be the ATF director, and it's sort of a non-controversial pick, in your opinion.

1:28.0

Tell us about that real quick.

1:29.3

Or at least relatively uncontroversial.

1:31.8

Well, controversial might be the wrong word.

1:35.1

We'll have to see how people react to it.

1:37.4

I would say it's a more traditional pick for the ATF director, meaning that it's a career law enforcement person.

1:46.5

This is his name is Robert Cicada,

1:48.3

I believe is how you pronounce it.

1:49.4

He is currently the deputy director of the ATF.

1:53.3

And before that,

1:54.5

he was a special agent.

1:55.8

And before that,

1:56.3

he worked at the NYPD and I think,

1:58.7

also had a law enforcement role

2:00.3

in Broward County, Florida at one point.

2:03.0

So not somebody, as far as I can tell my early research, not somebody I was like intimately

2:08.6

familiar with to begin with.

2:11.2

He was just appointed deputy director by President Trump in April.

2:15.7

So he's only been in that role since Trump took office for a second term here.

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