You know, very, very interesting.

But then again, when he just says right there, she was alive up to the point, basically

a front step.

And so if she died or was helpless at that point, that sort of gives more credence to the

more than one kidnapper theory that we have.

And again, Jim Clementi, when I read him,

I just want to back up a little bit from this because I wanted to go over some of the,

when he talks about the blood spatter and what may have happened by that front doorstep because I think he,

out of all the people have spoken about this case, he is the most accurate in his description

of the blood spatter and what may have occurred on the front doorstep of Nancy Guthrie's home.

So even in middle of the night, how many people could drive by and just happen to see

you with her?

You want her out of that house, into that car as soon as possible.

So that's why I got to think there's two.

One may be grabbing her, and maybe there's one with the car engine running.

You know, Mike, one of the things he is saying, though,

is that looking at, on the right side of this frame of this picture,

is that her face was no closer or no further away than 12 inches from the ground there.

And he's judging that on the science of bloodstain pattern analysis.

And so he's reading that blood spatter as she was so,

did she fall down?

Was she knocked down?

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