The Good Fight Club: Can Europe Control Its Fate?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk, Timothy Garton Ash, Sabina Ćudić, and Nathalie Tocci explore the relationship between the United States and Europe, the Ukraine peace talks, and whether Europe has any hope of reinvigorating itself. Timothy Garton Ash is the author of Homelands: A Personal History of Europe and writes the newsletter History of the Present. Sabina Ćudić is elected member of the National Parliament of Bosnia and Herzegovina, vice president of the Foreign Relations Committee, vice president of the European liberals in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, and the president of Naša stranka, a progressive, social-liberal political party. Nathalie Tocci is Director of the Istituto Affari Internazionali, Professor of Practice at the John Hopkins University SAIS, and independent non-executive director of the multi utility company Acea. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠⁠this link on your phone⁠⁠. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Google⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠Yascha Mounk⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Persuasion⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.5	And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.
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0:51.3	Welcome to the 13th edition, bad luck I suppose, of the Good Fight Club, and today we decided given current events to do a Europe extra vaganza. We're going to think about what Donald Trump's new national security
0:55.6	strategy means for Europe, what is happening with the peace negotiations in Ukraine and
1:02.8	whether Europe can try to assure a decent future for Ukraine on its own. And more broadly,
1:08.0	the question that most interests me, how should Europe respond to this political
1:11.6	moment? Is Europe destined to be a continental museum, or can it actually meet this political
1:18.6	and historical moment? What does it need to do in order to accomplish that? I have a really
1:23.6	star-studied panel of Europe experts and some of my most beloved Europeans with me today.
1:31.5	There is, I think, in a alphabetical order of the last name, Timothy Garten Ash.
1:36.8	He is the author of Homelands, A Personal History of Europe, as well as the Substack history of the present. Welcome, Timothy.
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