Jill Lepore on Why We Should Amend the U.S. Constitution

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Jill Lepore is the David Woods Kemper ’41 Professor of American History at Harvard University and professor of law at Harvard Law School. She is also a staff writer at The New Yorker. Her latest book is We the People: A History of the U.S. Constitution. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Jill Lepore discuss why historians have neglected the story of America, how to fix the toxicity in higher education, and whether we need more constitutional amendments. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠this link on your phone⁠. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠Spotify⁠ | ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Google⁠ X: ⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠ & ⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠ YouTube: ⁠Yascha Mounk⁠, ⁠Persuasion⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.7	Like who told these people that it was, you could just say, I don't want to read that because I find it painful.
0:36.2	Because if that's how you, then you can't read history.
0:38.4	History is full of pain.
0:39.4	People suffer.
0:40.4	Literature is full of pain.
0:41.6	Philosophy is full of pain.
0:42.9	The human experience is full of pain and suffering and injustice.
0:46.1	And to gain any capacity to live a good life, you have to confront pain and justice and suffering
0:56.4	and find a way to think about it
0:58.7	and reckon with it and remedy it
1:00.8	and make amends.
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