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The Nocturnists

The Gilded Age of Medicine with Dhruv Khullar, MD

The Nocturnists

Emily Silverman

Medicine, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.8614 Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Physician and New Yorker writer Dhruv Khullar argues that modern medicine is in a Gilded Age—one where groundbreaking innovations mask deep systemic issues, including misaligned incentives, escalating costs, and growing dissatisfaction. From the influence of private equity on healthcare to the flaws of Medicare Advantage and the crucial role of data as the 'oil' of the healthcare system, this conversation explores the challenges of contemporary medicine while underscoring the importance of frontline clinicians actively engaging in health policy debates.

Find show notes, transcript, and more at thenocturnists.org.

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0:00.0

Support for the Nocturnist comes from the California Medical Association.

0:04.5

At the Nocturnist, we are careful to ensure that all stories comply with health care privacy laws.

0:09.1

Details may have been changed to ensure patient confidentiality.

0:12.6

All views expressed are those of the person speaking and not their employer.

0:26.0

You're listening to the nocturnous conversations.

0:27.7

I'm Emily Silverman.

0:31.8

We are living in an era of medical breakthroughs.

0:39.1

Curative treatment for hepatitis C, the sweeping impact of GLP1 drugs, groundbreaking cancer therapy.

0:42.8

But beneath the surface, there's a different story.

0:48.9

The healthcare system is more expensive, inefficient, and impersonal than ever, driven largely by misaligned incentives and a tangled web of businesses that extract wealth while consuming an

0:55.8

ever-growing share of our nation's GDP. Physician, health policy expert, and New Yorker writer

1:02.4

Drew Kular calls this The Gilded Age of Medicine, an era where dazzling innovation masks a deep

1:09.8

dysfunction and mounting frustration among the general

1:12.5

public. In his latest piece, The Gilded Age of Medicine is here. He unpacks how private equity,

1:19.9

Medicare advantage, and consolidation are reshaping health care, and why frontline clinicians

1:25.3

must stay engaged in the health policy debate.

1:29.0

Dr. Kular is a physician and associate professor of health policy and economics at

1:33.3

Weil Cornell Medical College. He serves as director of the Physicians Foundation Center for

1:37.8

the Study of Physician Practice and Leadership and Associate Director of the Cornell Health Policy

1:42.5

Center. His research, published in JAMA and the New England Journal,

1:46.0

focuses on value-based care, health disparities, and medical innovation.

1:51.0

In my conversation with Drouve, we talk about how private equity is buying up hospital systems,

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