So you know, I ask, who's definitely voting for Donald Trump?

And I only got one or two hands per focus group.

And then I would say, who's definitely voting for the Democratic nominee?

And I only got a couple more hands.

So that's a bunch of people who are either waiting to see who the Democratic nominee is

or in the case of the Florida group might not vote.

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

Well, if you are downloading this podcast on the day that we uploaded,

it's Tuesday of the New Hampshire primary.

And if you're like a lot of people I know, you have like a weird pit in your stomach.

You're stressed out and you're anxious.

You feel this kind of ever present, but difficult to precisely articulate

sense of dread and fear.

And that's because it's an election season.

And there's a tremendous uncertainty that hangs over all of us

about the future of the American Republic and our political project,

the vibrancy of our democracy, the possibility of a more just equitable,

sustainable future.

And it's really hard, I think, for people that are particularly tuned into politics,

and that might not be all of you listening to my voice right now,

but a big chunk of you to think about the election all the time,

to think about Donald Trump, to run through catastrophizing daydreams

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