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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Frontlines of Addiction with Beth Macy

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2020

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

This is an intimate portrait of what addiction looks like in America. From the board rooms of pharmaceutical companies to the living rooms across America, Beth Macy traces the path of devastation wrought by opioids. Her latest book, “Dopesick” gives life to the urgency of the epidemic, illustrating just how woefully insufficient the national response has been to the scale of the crisis. She lays out the often-insurmountable barriers that stand between someone suffering and the treatment they need, and why stigma may be the biggest obstacle of them all. RELATED READING: Dopesick: Dealers, Doctors, and the Drug Company that Addicted America by Beth Macy Dying to Be Free by Jason Cherkis In Pain: A Bioethicist's Personal Struggle with Opioids by Travis Rieder My friend and I both took heroin. He overdosed. Why was I charged with his death? By Morgan Godvin YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE: Dying of Whiteness with Jonathan Metzl

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0:00.0

The story here is really the most cartoonish version also seems not that far from being the accurate one

0:05.5

Which is like big pharmaceutical interests essentially like

0:09.8

corruptly rigged a system to

0:12.3

Jack up their profits by essentially

0:15.2

Distributing poison across America leading to hundreds of thousands of people's deaths

0:19.4

Yep, that's what happened and when faced with evidence that they were

0:24.7

Underplaying the risks and overselling the efficacy

0:28.3

You know, they just doubled down on the marketing

0:34.2

Hello and welcome to wise is happening with me your host Chris Hayes

0:38.9

Well, I'm gonna start off today with some good news which I don't think I do enough. I realize that I'm

0:43.5

People some buzzers will tell me about the podcast like I love it, but it's kind of dark and heavy and I'm like is it?

0:48.6

I don't know doesn't feel that way to me, but it is of course. I'm drawn to the darkness

0:52.2

What can I say some good news?

0:53.8

Which is that for the first time in four years US life expectancy rose we think it looks like in I think

1:01.4

2018 is the data so there's a bit of a lag now it rose very very marginally and it comes at the end of this period that we've discussed on the show of

1:09.5

declining life expectancy in a developed first world

1:13.3

Democracy that is not at war and not in the midst of an epidemic like AIDS it makes no sense like it just shouldn't be happening

1:19.0

It's a real warning side in the society where you see life expectancy go down and

1:24.2

One of the biggest drivers not solely but the big drivers what's called deaths of despair

1:28.3

Which is people drinking themselves to death suicide and opioid overdoses and

1:33.6

opioid overdoses declined by enough to kind of increase life expectancy by a month

1:38.7

So that's a very small marginal change, but it's good news and it suggests that at the local level people have been

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