The Georgia Indictment
Lost Debate
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🗓️ 15 August 2023
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in. |
| 0:05.0 | This is Ravi Gupta and this is a special episode of The Lost Debate Show. |
| 0:10.0 | I thought I was not going to be recording a podcast today. |
| 0:12.0 | I'm actually sitting in LaGuardia Airport in a telephone booth. |
| 0:17.0 | But as things are, it's another week and it is another Trump indictment. |
| 0:22.5 | So I'm going to break down those charges and give you five big takeaways from those. |
| 0:26.7 | And then we have a wonderful voicemail from a listener about Oregon and that decriminalization |
| 0:32.0 | effort. |
| 0:33.0 | But let's start with this Trump case. |
| 0:34.9 | My assumption is that you know a bit about what's going on here, but I'm going to |
| 0:38.2 | give you five takeaways on this. One, about the scope of the charges, two, about the unique |
| 0:42.4 | threat of this particular case to Trump. Three, about the timing of it all. Four, about the statute |
| 0:49.4 | at issue and what makes that unique. And five, about the scope of defendants, the collection of defendants that we have. |
| 0:56.5 | So let's start with the scope of the charges. So this indictment, which is a really, really long document, |
| 1:04.0 | documents that there are eight ways the defendants were accused of obstructing the election by lying to the Georgia State Legislature, lying |
| 1:12.2 | to state officials, creating fake pro-Trump electors, harassing election workers, soliciting |
| 1:18.0 | Justice Department officials, soliciting Vice President Mike Pence, breaching voting machines, |
| 1:23.1 | and engaging in a cover-up. |
| 1:25.5 | This indictment alleges 161 separate actions that prosecutors say were |
| 1:30.3 | taken to further the criminal conspiracy. And this includes things like Giuliani giving false |
| 1:35.4 | testimony about election fraud to Georgia lawmakers in early December. Trump's telephone call |
| 1:41.3 | to the Georgia Secretary of State R Rafsenberger in early January, urging |
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