Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm bailiff Jesse Thorn. We're in chambers this week

clearing the docket and with me as always is the main man with one end at the end.

Judge John Hodgman. I thought you were introducing Joel Mann.

I know he's the main man with two ends at the end.

Main man double N J O E L M A double N Joel Mann on the air at W E R U in East

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powered studios in East Orland thanks for leaving this pledge drive material on the table Joel. How are you?

Very good. Joel John Jesse John Jennifer John I thought we had a real problem. I thought we had a

real problem on the judge John Hodgman podcast Jesse. You know why? Why? No disputes. No disputes.

I mean this whole show runs on disputes. That's it's the engine of the show. Look there. It's

it's like a car. It's like the engine of a car is an engine. The engine of this show is disputes.

Yeah. There are a lot of podcasts you go to where four people whose names start with J might be

talking to each other about nothing. Rollicking through a chat. But if you want to docket you need

disputes. Those both start with D and I was getting D nothing over the wire through the transum

wherever the disputes come from because you know what happens Jesse they come from a form maximum

fun.org slash J J H O they come from a form and I was getting nothing and I was concerned.

I mean Jennifer I wrote to you about this right? Yeah. I wrote to you and I said maybe no one's

having disputes anymore. Yeah. Maybe this is it Francis Fukuyama end of history. All disputes settled.

What are we going to do? I too was concerned it was a Francis Fukuyama situation. Me too.

I know you were. What about you Joel? I have no idea what you talked about. Right. But then

Jennifer Marmer spoke to some of the wizards there at maximum fun headquarters and we realized

there was somewhere on with the form and all of a sudden all of a sudden I would say what about

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