This is the BBC.

Why on earth did you say that?

That's a question I'm often asked about, things that I've said on the radio.

And the answer is when you're doing live broadcasting, you have no clue what you said what you did.

The day after the last Philip Hammond budget, remember is only just a few months ago,

I ended up branding the Chancellor.

By what I thought was his nickname...

Well, do you agree this is basically spreadsheet, Phil, a spreadsheet, Phil, I should say,

as he's known in the Treasury?

Well, at least I wasn't referring to the health secretary.

We'll be talking about Phil's spreadsheets a little bit later on,

and we'll be talking in particular to one of those who is putting pressure on him to change policies.

They're head of the TUC, the General Secretary, Francis O'Grady.

Now, spare a thought for spread sheet-fill.

He is under the most enormous pressure to turn round Tory fortunes with a single speech,

despite the fact that he's got no money to spend.

At least this week there have been no more cabinet resignations,

no more secret forum policies being pursued,

no more sexual harassment claims, not so far, at least.

But just listen to the chair of the Treasury Select Committee adding to the pressure on the Chancellor.

Will they get a cheer, Nicky Morgan, from this?

I mean, talking a public investment, one of George Ortsbourne's close allies, Nick Bowles,

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