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Hi.

I've missed you.

It's been so long.

And I love seeing you in New York because in a way, I feel like it's where you're meant to be. Thank you so much. New York Pia is really her true of self. I agree. And so thank you for, it was a new friendship and for you to see me that clearly right away means a lot to me. Immediate. I knew. I love that you live right in Soho. It's really interesting because when I first moved to New York, like my first apartment in New York in 2002 or whatever was on Mott Street.

And now I live on Mott Street again now.

And it's obviously very different.

But, you know, like, you know when people are like, I wish I could tell my eight-year-old self like this would be her life.

I think that about my like 19-year-old self. Wait, so I said this to you when we did the, when we talked to Lido Books, where we were like, we started the conversation and I was like, congratulations, because you and I are similar in that, like, we moved to New York to, like, have a big, like, New York dream. And I York dream and I was like baby you did it oh I don't feel that way most days but I am really happy to still live on

Mont Street but not in a fifth floor walk up with cockroaches you know yeah at least I did that part

but like you've had like your own incredible career you had a very long marriage which is like

that's a New York miracle in itself.

Right? Marriage is such a beast, man. You're so good at it. You're such a good wife. You think? Yes, I think you're a beautiful wife. I'm not to, like, undermine my mother. Your mom was a very ambitious woman. Yes.

My mom, like, if I called her at like two at school and was like, I kind of don't feel good.

She'd be like, I'm on my way.

Amazing. My mom was like an amazing home mom. You had really good modeling for that. She ran my dad's office, but it's hard for me now because I'm such a achiever. Yeah. Where do you think you got that from? I don't know. You know, outside of

our family unit, which she ran brilliantly and thank God. You know, my dad was really sickly. She took care of him. And so, yeah, it's super interesting. Because for me, like having a mom like yours, I know you have like, you know, you write about her in the book a lot. That would have been like more inspiring to me. But, You know, it's like you never have what you.

Oh, the grass is always green.

Yeah.

I mean, my mom does inspire me so much, but sometimes when

it comes to being a wife or being domestic or being a mom, like, I just don't know what it looks like.

It's crazy. I never lived inside of that, you know? And I think if I had better modeling for it,

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