Hello friends, I'm Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center,

and welcome to We the People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

The National Constitution centers a nonpartisan nonprofit, chartered by Congress, to increase awareness

and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.

I'm so excited that my new book is out this week.

It's called The Pursuit of Liberty, How Hamilton v. Jefferson Ignited the Lasting Battle Over Power in America.

In February, I was honored to convene a great group of historians to talk about the book, and I'm delighted

to share that conversation with you now.

Here's a dinner conversation with Joanne Freeman, George Will and Sean Willens.

Enjoy the show.

This retreat is a thrill to participate in on so many levels, but for me, among the

highlights, is getting to assemble my intellectual heroes to comment on the drafts of my books,

and we did this for the pursuit of happiness, and now I have the incredible privilege of convening three of America's greatest historians of the Hamilton Jefferson debate to discuss with me a book that I've got coming out in October. It's called The Pursuit of Liberty, How Hamilton versus Jefferson,

ignited the lasting battle over power in America.

And I'm relying on this final discussion as a workshop

to refine the conclusion and pin down the arguments of the book.

So I really can't wait for it.

We're going to start with a good question, which I'm really eager to pull the group on.

If you had to pick just one, which team do you feel most temperamentally suited to?

Team Jefferson or Team Hamilton.

I have a party trick of memorizing stuff, but this book is in draft and I haven't yet come close to memorizing it.

So I thought I'd just begin by reading a few paragraphs from the intro and then to kick off our discussion.

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