Content warning, this episode contains some discussion of the murder of two girls.

As we all know, there will soon be oral arguments before the Indiana Supreme Court concerning the Richard Allen case.

But what exactly are oral arguments anyway?

How are they structured and why do they even have them?

How much pressure do they put on the attorneys in the case?

And how do the lawyers prepare for such a high stakes argument?

After all, if an attorney makes an error, it could have fatal consequences not just for their case,

but perhaps for their entire career.

To get answers to those questions, we turn to George W Hicks Jr.

George is a partner in the Washington, D.C. and the Dallas offices of Kirkland and Ellis, and he has extensive appellate

experience. Experience, which, as you will hear, include successfully arguing a case in front of the

Supreme Court of the United States.

My name is Anya Kane. I'm a journalist. And I'm Kevin Greenley. I'm an attorney.

And this is the murder sheet. We're a true crime podcast focused on original reporting, interviews, and deep dives into murder cases.

We're the murder sheet.

And this is the Delphi murders.

Richard Allen goes to the Indiana Supreme Court.

Appellate attorney George W Hicks discusses oral arguments. it's. So, The The reason our audience is currently so interested in the issue of oral arguments of course is this case of Richard Allen that has been coming to the Supreme Court of Indiana on

a writ of mandamus. I just wonder if you had any thoughts on that.

Well I think that it's a very interesting way that it is before the Indiana Supreme Court.

So typically a case gets before any state Supreme Court, including the Indiana Supreme Court, of the Supreme Court, after the case

has essentially finished in the trial court.

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