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The Delphi Murders: A Conversation with Leaders from the National Organization of Parents of Murdered Children

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True Crime, Murder, Unsolved Case, Killing, Murderer, Cold Case

3.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Today, we'll be speaking with two members of a family no one wants to join. That found family is comprised of the members of the National Organization of Parents of Murdered Children and its local chapters. These members have each lost a child, sibling, relative, or even a friend to violence. Founded in Cincinnati, Ohio by Robert and Charlotte Hullinger after the murder of their daughter Lisa, this is an organization that seeks to unite and support those who have lost a loved one to homicide. Now, POMC advocates for victims' families and provides plenty of resources to help survivors.

Given the recent circumstances surrounding the Delphi murders case, we wished to interview guests who can speak to the heartbreak, pain, and frustration that comes with losing someone to homicide. We were fortunate enough to get to talk with POMC National Board of Trustees President Connie Sheely and Vice President Lori King. Both joined POMC after losing a sibling to violence.

They will share their thoughts on the leak of sensitive discovery documents and the ways the public, traditional media, new media, and parties in the case can behave with respect and sensitivity toward the victims families in this case.

Check out the POMC's website here: https://www.pomc.org/

Call the national office at: 513-721-5683.

Read through the list of POMC chapters here: https://www.pomc.org/chapters/

The Hobart, Indiana chapter of the POMC can be reached at: 219-616-0069 or 219-682-7285.

The Kentuckiana chapter of the POMC based in Louisville, Kentucky can be reached at: 502-930-3853.

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0:00.0

Content warning, this episode contains discussion of the murder of two girls.

0:04.4

The case of the Delphi murders was thrown into disarray

0:08.1

when Mitchell or Mitch Westerman leaked discovery materials from defense attorney Andrew Baldwin's office.

0:14.3

Those discovery materials included graphic images of a crime scene involving two children,

0:19.3

13-year-old Abigail Williams and 14-year-old Liberty German.

0:23.6

Baldwin and his co-counsel Bradley Rosie withdrew from the case as a result of all this.

0:28.4

Now they're fighting to come back on and to throw off Judge Francis Gul.

0:32.4

The result has been delays and legal wrangling. On January 18,

0:36.5

2024, the Indiana Supreme Court will hear oral arguments around who will stay and who will

0:41.6

go. We've gone over the legal aspects of this situation in some depth.

0:46.0

We've had on our program those who believe the attorney should come back

0:50.0

and those who believe the judge should stay on.

0:52.0

These legal discussions are obviously very and those who believe the judge should stay on.

0:53.0

These legal discussions are obviously very relevant.

0:56.0

Questions of constitutional rights and legal processes will ultimately determine

1:00.0

what happens going forward.

1:02.0

But there's been one important aspect that we have not really explored.

1:05.5

That is the emotional ramifications for the families of Abbey and Libby.

1:09.5

At the heart of this situation, we have two murdered children who have been re-victimized once more.

1:16.4

Kevin and I talk to victims' families all the time, behind the scenes and on this program.

1:21.4

We delve into these cases. We try to report with empathy, but at the end of the day

1:26.2

we have not experienced the pain of losing a loved one to violence. We cannot fully grasp what that is like.

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