content warning. This episode contains discussion of sexual crimes against

children. We recently got the opportunity to speak with Kagancline. We did not

go to the Miami County jail but instead opted for a remote video visit with

him on Monday, May 22nd, 2023. We had a little over 20 minutes to ask him

questions and get his responses. We texted with Kagancline before to arrange

his interview. He asked for a chance to respond to one of our previous episodes

where we included statements from Kagan's ex-girlfriend as well as from his

father Tony Klein. He also noted that he did not want to discuss the Delphine

murders with us. We feel it's very important to give anyone we include in our

coverage a chance to share their side of the story, especially when they're

facing serious criminal charges. And we also knew we would rather talk to Kagan

about matters concerning his child sexual abuse materials case than insist on

asking him Delphine related questions and losing the chance to talk to him at

all. So we agreed to those terms. Previously, we've had occasional texts back

and forth with him. For instance, back on April 12, 2023, we asked him if he felt

bad about the things he admitted doing. He replied, of course I do. You think it

doesn't eat it me daily in my brain 24-7? You were here as allude to this

exchange in the interview. As a note, Kagan Klein faces 25 charges, mostly

related to child sexual abuse materials. His name first came up publicly in

connection with the Delphine murders back in December 2021 after wished TV

published a report tying him to the Anthony Schatz account. Are reporting on

an August 2020 transcript of a police interview with Klein indicated the

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