"The Death of Policy?" with John Hewson
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | G'day, humans. I'm on the road this week. If I sound a little muffled, it's because I'm sitting on a dusty bed in a cheap motel room in the nation's capital of Canberra. |
| 0:12.2 | The Australian Capital Territory, the Bush Capital, they call it. And I know you probably think that my travel habits are somewhat more glamorous than that. |
| 0:21.6 | You probably have images of me stepping off a private jet into a stretched limousine to whisk me to my four-season suite. |
| 0:28.8 | And yes, I do that sometimes. |
| 0:30.8 | But this weekend, I'm in the nation's capital to bring you a special episode about whether or not it's possible to still |
| 0:38.9 | have big ideas in politics. |
| 0:41.4 | I'm speaking with the man who tried to drag Australia into the 21st century and failed |
| 0:47.0 | about the fate of the truly radical and visionary attempt to reform the political system, to reform the economic system, |
| 0:58.5 | whether we should aspire to such things, and if we're going to, how best to pull them off. |
| 1:05.5 | This is a conversation that is timely, and it's interesting, that is pressing, even here in Canberra, and that is yes, |
| 1:12.7 | still, perhaps now more than ever, uncomfortable. |
| 1:25.2 | It's a big show this week, as I mentioned, it's the man who's been called the best Prime Minister Australia never had. |
| 1:33.8 | In 1993, for a bit of background. |
| 1:37.5 | The government of the time, the ruling Labour Party, was fighting for its life. |
| 1:42.9 | It was going into an election that would give it a fifth |
| 1:46.3 | consecutive term with the Prime Minister Paul Keating going up against the only liberal leader |
| 1:53.0 | ever to have never had a cabinet-level political position. John Houston was his name. He was an |
| 1:59.5 | economics professor. Australia was emerging from the recession |
| 2:03.5 | of the late 80s and early 90s, so it seemed a perfect time for an economics professor to take |
| 2:09.0 | over the helm from a very long-serving Labor government. It was called the unloosable election |
| 2:16.7 | for John Hewson. And yet, he lost it. |
| 2:21.3 | Labor won re-election and then didn't win another election for another 14 years. |
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