Hello, everyone, welcome to the Eastside McCauley podcast. We're joined today by our regular

Justin Gibney. How are things going with you, Justin? They're going well, man, glad to be here.

For those of you who, like, I'm maybe trying to inspire people to, like, click into our YouTube

things. We can into our YouTube things.

We can get our YouTube views up.

Yeah.

But like I've always loved Justin's art in the back. Like where did you get those, those images? He had G.K. Chesterton, that's Fannie Lou Hamer. I can't see who the other two people. Who are the, who are the people behind you with other two? Gardner C. Taylor and Mahalia Jackson. Okay, then did you get those painted somewhere?

I did actually show Baraka's wife.

Okay, then. Garden and C. Taylor and Mahalia Jackson. Okay. Then did. Did you get those painted somewhere? I did. Actually show Baraka's wife. Okay. Did she have like a business? Yeah. Okay. Shout out. Google showboy. Where do we go if I need to get some of this up painting? What do I need to do? I can get that to you so you can put it in the show notes. You saw we put a show notes. You saw is mostly just interested because he wants one of himself to put up. Send to you, Justin. I'm sure it will be sent to me. I mean, if people want to put a picture of me on their wall, who am I to tell them no, right? Let these people, let the people like who they want to like. All right. Fair enough. Yeah. We should get one of the, yeah, for the show. For the show, right behind you. And I would say I would look back at my own self.

So we also joined today by Mike Hothan. Right. Fair enough. Yeah. We should get one of the, yeah, for the show. For the show, right behind you.

And I would say I would look back at my own self.

So we also joined today by Mike.

How are things going, Mike? Ah, things are great. Esau. Did you do anything fun over the weekend? I recovered. I was in Nashville last week with some other Christian podcasters. Oh, wait. It was a Christian podcast thing. Yeah, so there was a group of us kind of getting together,

just sharing all the trade secrets, you know?

What did you tell them?

What is the key to our success or lack thereof? The key to our success is having a pretty talented host, but an even more talented producer to keep the host on track. I thought you're going to say actually having a great team of being a guest. Oh yeah, great guests as well. Yeah, you're right. That wouldn't better. So our first story

is this article that we saw a couple of weeks ago. We've been trying to get on the podcast for a minute.

It's about what's the name of it? The people who shunned super popular pop culture. Yeah, it's like

popularity resistance. And they said there's these people who when something becomes super, super popular, they're the

kind of people who says, I haven't seen it.

And then they spoke about there's like two different types of personality as it relates

to popular culture.

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