Another Assassination Attempt & What We're Missing About DEI
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
After another assassination attempt on President Trump, Esau McCaulley, Malcolm Foley and Mike Stralow wrestle with what it means that political violence is starting to feel normal, and why Christians must reject any attempt to justify it in Jesus' name. They unpack the so-called "Christian" logic behind the attacker's manifesto, and explain why the story of Jesus fundamentally undermines violence as a tool for change. Then the conversation turns to the backlash around DEI, where real concerns, bad ideas, and political overreactions have all been thrown into one messy debate. Also this week: why people quietly leave churches, and Producer Mike might need a new nickname.
0:00 - Theme Song
3:02 - Assassination Attempt
6:11 - Christian Non-Violence
9:05 - Identifying with the State
17:35 - Conspiracy Theories
20:53 - Where DEI Backfires
29:48 - The "DEI Bundle"
34:52 - Critiquing DEI Without Being MAGA
39:00 - Pastors and Congregation Numbers
55:24 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Easton McCauley podcast. |
| 0:08.8 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:10.3 | Today, we're joined by Malcolm Foley, who does something over there at Baylor. |
| 0:15.1 | And we're also joined by, you know something? |
| 0:18.9 | Yes. |
| 0:20.5 | I was going to introduce him as producer Mike. |
| 0:24.6 | And, you know, Malcolm, |
| 0:27.3 | sometimes you see talent with somebody, right? |
| 0:30.2 | They're over there like tooling in the shadows, |
| 0:33.5 | typing out memos, whatever producers do. |
| 0:36.4 | And you see them and you pluck them out and you pluck them out of obscurity. |
| 0:40.9 | And you say, come on up here, brother. |
| 0:43.3 | I'm going to make you a co-host on the show. |
| 0:45.8 | I give him a nickname, right? |
| 0:48.0 | Producer Mike. |
| 0:49.1 | He's out in the streets. |
| 0:51.2 | And the people are yelling, |
| 0:52.2 | the people are yelling, hey, producer Mike, they're saying to him in the streets and the people are yelling. The people are yelling, hey producer Mike, |
| 0:56.2 | they're saying to him in the streets, let Mike cook. |
| 0:58.8 | Job title in my name. |
| 1:00.8 | He has all of this stuff, right? |
| 1:03.0 | All of a sudden we get an email, |
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