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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Death of Lindsey Graham and Jay-Z’s Colin Kaepernick Diss

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2026

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to the death of Senator Lindsey Graham and the speculation around the health of Senator Mitch McConnell before digging into Jay-Z’s mention of Colin Kaepernick at a recent performance. (0:00) Intro (27:25) Rachel’s porkless week (29:52) World Cup updates (33:29) Reactions to Lindsey Graham’s death (56:21) Mitch McConnell speculation (1:00:45) Jay-Z disses Colin Kaepernick (1:51:31) Rachel’s “Finest” (1:54:26) Revenge of the Bison Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, Thought Warriors, what is up?

0:11.0

Howe Learning is on, is I Van Lathen, Jr.

0:13.0

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:15.0

Yeah, that's right, Jay, be ready.

0:16.0

My dad would hunt with a muzzleloader.

0:19.0

He would also hunt with a bow he would also

0:24.7

hunt so like he liked the hunting season to be longer and you could hunt

0:31.0

primitive before so we're talking about hunting guys if you just and my dad

0:37.1

would hunt all of that stuff but we're going back to what I said on the last podcast, when it came down to like, you know, hunting a boar, we never did that. And he just wasn't with hunting the boar. Just let you guys know what happened. There were some people in my family that weren't so thrilled that I told the story that my father didn't want me to go hunt a boar what everyone from the baseball team. Why? This is like they say it made dad look like he had a problem

0:59.3

with white people. No, I think it made it look like, I mean, I could see that point of view,

1:03.7

but I don't think we didn't take it like that. It made it seem like he was very cautious

1:08.3

about the situation.

1:12.9

Can we, so my dad, I'm not going to say that my dad had a problem with white people.

1:17.2

Okay.

1:17.9

Don't say that then.

1:20.7

What I will say though is that he had instructions.

1:27.9

Growing up in the South,

1:31.4

and I don't want to dismiss anybody else's experience

1:34.2

of where they grew up in this country,

1:36.8

but I feel like there's always a heightened sense

1:41.2

of, I don't know, awareness when you are black in the South around white people.

1:47.9

I agree.

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