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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

"New Face of Hollywood,” Boosie’s Pardon Play, and Rachel’s Finest

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2026

⏱️ 131 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to a problematic Hollywood Reporter article and some Christian blacklash for KevOnStage, before discussing Boosie’s failed efforts to get a pardon and recent killings at the hands of ICE. Then Rachel gives her list of “top five finest men.” (0:00) Intro (24:38) New face of Hollywood (46:08) KevOnStage upsets some fans (1:05:27) Boosie’s pardon play (1:17:32) Memphis Bleek and community (1:34:48) ICE shootings (1:54:24) Rachel’s finest (2:02:18) Remembering a community hero Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, you know, thought warriors. What is up? How Learning is on, is I Van Lacey Jr.

0:13.8

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. We're here on Friday. It's Friday morning. It's 8 a.m.

0:19.8

This podcast is coming out a little bit later on today. Was that communicated to the people? Yeah, I was posted on social. I didn't look at the comments. I posted it. I posted it. Yeah, you did have a little bit of a country accent. Our van and I rubbing off on you? I posted it. I don't know. You know, I'm supposed to going to Dallas, so. That's not the country, man. That was a big city. Hey, you know, Dallas? Don't let, we have our own accent in Dallas for sure. Yeah, I definitely have their own accent. But Dallas is, I think Dallas is the biggest landlocked city in the country. I think that's true. I'm going to be, I've never thought about that. No, somebody brought it up when we were doing, uh, we were down there for hip-hop homicides. We stayed in the hotel, disgusting hotel. Um, and outside of, uh, we were talking to somebody and said, Dallas is the the biggest biggest landlocked city.

1:14.5

And let me look this up. Landlock. My guess would have been Chicago, but I guess that

1:16.4

is Chicago landlocked with Lake Michigan?

1:19.5

I don't know if you can call

1:20.8

Chicago landlocked.

1:23.5

Oh, here it is.

1:24.8

Depending on how you measure

1:26.5

size, the answer is very between Phoenix, Arizona,

1:31.2

by population, and Indianapolis, Indiana, by land area.

1:35.1

Hmm.

1:36.1

So maybe they were wrong.

1:37.0

Maybe they lied on.

1:37.4

But Houston is landlocked.

1:39.6

Is it?

1:40.4

Yeah.

1:41.4

Is Houston landlocked?

1:42.7

It is.

1:43.8

By city limits, Dallas is. oh, Dallas is a little smaller, but the whole Dallas metro area

1:50.0

is probably like four million people or something like that.

1:52.0

You're including Fort Worth?

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