The Tubman $20 Bill, Graham Platner’s Exit, and Rappers Flying Commercial

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2026

⏱️ 135 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to the U.S. men's soccer team’s loss to Belgium and the list of Emmy nominees. Then they discuss the end of the plans for Harriet Tubman’s $20 bill and Graham Platner ending his Senate campaign. Plus, an update on Marcellus Wiley, and the death of a Mississippi teen sparks conversation. (0:00) Intro (18:53) U.S. loses to Belgium (31:06) Emmy nominations (42:34) Harriet Tubman $20 bill plans ended (59:11) Graham Platner’s failed campaign (1:31:43) Marcellus and Annemarie Wiley update (1:48:28) Questions around the death of Nolan Wells (2:01:59) Rappers flying commercial Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? How learning is on is I Van Lathen Jr.
0:13.9	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. You were talking about the freckles before. Well, I was
0:18.2	saying a lot of people are coming up to me talking about the freckles because you called it out I didn't call it's almost like they want to see
0:25.6	it's like this like instead of being like hey what it's uh what do they say that like have the
0:33.6	freckles like it's just kind of like oh the freckles and some people have been like we like
0:37.2	we like the freckles yeah some people haveles. Like, it's just kind of like, oh, the freckles. And some people have been like, we like the freckles.
0:37.8	Yeah.
0:38.1	Some people have been like, welcome to the community.
0:40.7	Otto said he doesn't appreciate you.
0:42.5	Oh, Otto. I love his freckles. Freckle nigger. He would did not say that. I can show you. Show me. I don't I feel like he wouldn't turn on me like that
0:51.3	No Otto said
0:52.5	Auto shout out to our friend
0:55.0	Call him call him put them on You call everybody else on the podcast. Guess he ain't coming over to the house anymore. Oh, damn. Our friend Otto is an actor. While you're calling him, I'm literally looking up your hat. It's the first time I'm like, I love something he's wearing. Projectionist. Actor slash projectionist.
1:11.8	Otto is one of the only black projectionists.
1:15.7	In LA?
1:16.8	No, in the whole company.
1:19.8	Oh.
1:20.3	It's not that many.
1:21.3	He's,
1:21.4	Otto is the lead.
1:23.3	Oh, I was going to leave him on that.
1:24.8	It said, tell Rachel, my freckles are not her costume.
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