They're private.

Yeah.

I'm glad you mentioned that for sure.

So, Troy, maybe, I mean, where does your journey lead or start that led you to this world

of creating Ladery St.

You know, cruise experiences, both professionally and spiritually?

I mean, how far back do you want to go?

I like to tell people my life is as off track as it could possibly be, I guess. Not really,

but, you know, the grand plan that the 14-year-old boy had. Yeah. You know, I, we were converts to

the church when I was a young boy. And I don't know if this is the right time to share that

in my conversion story but I'll just say it was a powerful life change life changing

experience the courage of a young latterly same boy 18 years old who was just a great

example to his head football coach which happened to be my dad And that young boy was tragically killed in an accident and the whole football team,

as well as the head coach, arrived at an LDS chapel for a funeral.

And my father couldn't pull himself together emotionally.

He was just sitting in the parking lot in his car, in a packed parking lot at an LDS chapel.

They wouldn't start the funeral until Coach Dunn showed up.

And one of the players said, I think I saw him sitting in his car.

And the dad of the deceased young man went out and opened his car door

and said, coach, we're not doing this without you.

And my dad apologized profusely.

I'm so sorry.

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