This week, an encounter that has become vanishingly rare on Unholy, a dialogue between a leading

Israeli analyst and a leading Palestinian activist on what happens next in this war, what comes

the day after. It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

And I'm Unite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

This week saw, I think, a return of what Israel wants to be in a way in a daring and cunning and successful operation to hostages were rescued live and well. Louis Har and Fernando Mirman, they were rescued in an operation the police commissioner called

an Entebbe-style operation, Israeli Special Forces, a dramatic overnight raid.

And, you know, one of those moments where you see the pictures, you hear the news, I think

the most emotional moments before them meeting their family is, of course, that story about the fact that the soldiers

were hugging and protecting them as the fire broke out. And again, this is Israel as we want to be,

right? Soldiers going in, protecting them with their bodies, bringing them back home alive.

Yeah, and the invocation of Entebbe, hugely evocative and loaded. And of course,

with Entebbe comes the associations of, as you said, Israel as we wanted to be, and as how the world

then looked at Israel, as this heroic, plucky David against Goliath nation engaged in, you know, almost impossible

courage and ingenuity, then the sort of dissenting note that shows how things have changed

since then is I really did notice in the coverage, outside Israel, a change even within the

few months of this war, because when hostages had been freed

through military operations before, there was some of that admiration in the coverage.

This time, very quickly, attention went on reports that there had been a decoy operation

in order to divert Hamas' attention by the IDF, and that that decoy operation had

involved some 60-od Palestinian deaths to enable the release of those two hostages.

And I just thought, okay, that's interesting how central that was in a lot of the coverage.

It suggested to me it went with the grain of sort of decreasing patients on the part of the world,

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