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The Model Health Show

The Critical Truth About Vaccine Safety (Everyone Needs to Know!) - With Dr. Joel Warsh

The Model Health Show

Shawn Stevenson

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Motivation, Wellness, Nutrition, Health, Sex, Selfhelp

4.8 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Most of us are acutely aware that the topic of vaccines has become extremely controversial over the last several years. And in a world where this topic is heavily censored, there has to be a place for open discussion, evidence-based education, and informed decisions. Today, you’re going to hear a balanced perspective on vaccines, vaccine history, and what the research actually says.

Dr. Joel “Gator” Warsh is a board-certified pediatrician who specializes in integrative medicine. He’s also the author of the new book, Between A Shot and a Hard Place. Today, he’s back on The Model Health Show for an important discussion on the nuances of vaccines and the truth about vaccine safety.

In this conversation, you’re going to learn about how vaccines work and why they’ve become so divisive in our society. You’re going to learn the truth about vaccine studies, and what’s missing from the general conversation on long-term side effects. This may be one of the most polarizing topics of our time – but Dr. Warsh brings common sense, research, and truth to the forefront. I hope you enjoy this interview with Dr. Joel Warsh!  

In this episode you’ll discover: 

  • What inspired Dr. Warsh to write a book on vaccines. (4:42)
  • The problem with the phrase, “safe and effective.” (7:47)
  • Why pharmaceutical companies have immunity from liability. (9:15)
  • How vaccines work and the different types of vaccines. (13:23)
  • The truth about long-term risks. (15:54)
  • Why placebo is a misnomer when it comes to vaccine studies. (21:15)
  • A conversation on polypharmacy. (27:33)
  • Why medicine lost trust during the pandemic. (29:41)
  • A common flaw with epidemiological data. (32:43)
  • The specific types of studies that are needed for a better understanding of vaccine safety. (38:43)
  • The importance of transparency in medicine. (43:54)
  • What inactive ingredients are in vaccines. (52:50)
  • How VAERS works, and what it overlooks. (1:01:24)
  • The critical shared goal among parents and pediatricians. (1:02:56)
  • Why there’s a double standard with reactions to medications. (1:06:35)
  • The major issue with dismissing parents’ concerns about vaccines. (1:09:28) 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You are now listening to The Model Health Show with Sean Stevenson. For more, visit themodelhealthshow.com.

0:11.6

Welcome to the model health show. Thank you so much for joining me today. On this episode, we're going to be having one of the most important conversations that we've ever had. This topic is something that is

0:24.2

incredibly inflammatory. It's something that is incredibly impactful. And it's also something

0:30.5

that is incredibly important. Today we're going to be talking about vaccines. Now, it's very

0:36.3

difficult to have a conversation like this

0:38.4

in our modern society because conversations surrounding vaccines tend to get flagged or censored.

0:45.1

There's a lot of red tape around this subject matter, which in it of itself is a concern.

0:49.8

But what tends to happen is that it's so polarizing that folks tend to swing to one end of the

0:56.7

conversation.

0:57.6

And we're going to be looking at both sides of the conversation.

1:00.7

And we're also going to be looking at the most important stuff in the middle, sometimes

1:06.4

the messy middle, looking at the things that we know and the things that we truly do not know when it

1:13.5

comes to vaccine safety. This is a conversation and really a masterclass on a subject that I've

1:21.3

wanted to do for a long time. And I really pushed the boundaries around vaccines and the vaccine conversation in particular

1:29.8

during the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

1:34.1

And one of the first things that I did was reach out to some epidemiologists and people

1:39.9

who were tracking the data.

1:40.9

And I had on the author of the first peer-reviewed study on the vaccine

1:45.6

trial data to really help us to make sense of it all. And this was because this was going to be

1:50.1

so impactful for our society. I wanted to make sure that we had accurate answers. And,

1:56.5

unfortunately, unbeknownst to me, a lot of that work, a lot of the information, a lot of the highly

2:03.1

credible individuals who were reaching out to me and who were sharing this data were being

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