The Costs of Chaos

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

A trio of superb economic analysts—Paul Krugman, Stephanie Ruhle, and Justin Wolfers—join Harry to break down how Trump is reshaping the U.S. economy. They weigh in on how long the shutdown can go on without major economic consequences, where tariffs are beginning to bite, and the future shape of the AI spike. Then, the whole panel joins in a big picture analysis of how Trump’s trademark chaotic, self-serving approach—combined with his attacks on institutions, immigration, and the rule of law—risks tearing up the foundations of American prosperity. Mentioned in this episode: Paul’s Substack: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/ Stephanie’s show: https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour Justin’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JustinWolfers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:04.4	Welcome to Talking Fed's, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests for a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day.
1:18.6	I'm Harry Littman.
1:20.0	It's our periodic economic episode, where I'm joined by some of the country's best analysts for a deep look at what Trump is doing to American economic life.
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