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Talking Feds

Is No Kings a Turning Point? (Plus a baseball bonus on Ohtani!)

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Harry speaks with Congressman Eric Swalwell about the surge of popular resistance to Trump shown in the “No Kings” rallies and what it means for the president’s attempts to remake the country in his image. They tackle Democrats’ progress in the shutdown fight, some hopeful signs from the courts, and Trump’s latest efforts to weaponize the DOJ. Plus, Rep. Swalwell pitches Harry on a new, creative legal strategy Democratic AGs could use to hold federal officials and agents to account. And this episode has got a special baseball bonus: after his conversation with Swalwell, Harry calls up baseball reporter Ben Walker for a debrief on Shohei Ohtani’s mind-boggling night for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Fed's one-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures about the most

0:13.4

fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives. I'm your host,

0:23.8

Harry Littman. Welcome to another Talking Fed's one-on-one with a really important member of Congress these days and one of the

0:31.5

most visible leaders of the resistance to Donald Trump, dating back to Donald Trump 1.0.

0:39.8

I'm talking of, of course,

0:46.6

Congressman Eric Swalwell, who represents California's 14th district in Congress, where he serves on the House Judiciary Committee, the Homeland Security Committee, before coming to Capitol Hill,

0:53.1

Congressman Swalwell was a prosecutor, just a line prosecutor in the

0:57.3

Alamania County Attorney's Office so he knows whereof he speaks about justice on the ground,

1:03.5

which is a big issue now, and he served in a number of local government roles. Always a pleasure.

1:10.4

It's been too long to welcome to talking

1:12.1

feds. Thanks so much. My pleasure. Thanks for having me back. Okay, so we're taping after the massive,

1:19.9

even more than predicted, no King's protests. You, I believe, attended one. Just give me your

1:27.3

sense of the scene. What did you see?

1:29.7

What was the kind of vibe? Any favorite signs or costumes, etc. I started the morning at the

1:37.1

state capital in Sacramento. And there were over 10,000 no kings protesters. There are many

1:43.4

families, a lot of baby strollers, you know know as a dad of three little kids you kind of track the baby strollers that are around and it was a rally that was full of love for America and a hate for fascism.

2:01.6

And that was it, plain and simple.

2:04.6

People who showed up, they love this country.

2:06.6

They just don't want to lose it to an aspiring dictator.

2:12.6

And also in California, by the way, we are just about two weeks out from Prop 50 being decided.

2:21.2

And so I went from Sacramento to my district and went to a second rally in Pleasanton.

2:27.0

Now, Harry, I think you know of Pleasanton, California.

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