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This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel with Eleanor Barracloff, the professor,

who is also the author of Embers of the Hands, Hidden Histories of the Viking Age.

Eleanor is helping us understand that the Vikings, who have this very large reputation in America, because they got to North America, they got to Greenland in the

news, they got to Iceland, always in the news, they got to England, yes, of course, but they also

reached all the way into what is now Russia and Eastern Europe. Eleanor, please

continue. You had them at Novgorod around the middle of the 9th century. Yeah, so pretty similar,

just a couple of years before this Great Heathen Army lands in England. There is Rurik and his

company in Novgorod in 862.

This then becomes the starting point for what becomes known as Keev and Rus as a sort of cultural group.

But the reason it becomes known as Keev and Russe is that a couple of decades later, their power base shifts south to

Kyiv. But what's really interesting is that although you have people of Norse descent and

Norse heritage very much controlling this cultural area early on, there are always a minority,

and there are lots of other Slavic groups in particular,

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