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We've recently returned from our What's Her Name Lost Women of France tour, which was pure magic.

It was.

True to Form. I recorded a surprise interview the day before our tour started when I was just recovering from jet lag in the town of Sonlis.

Who could sleep away their jet lag when this is the soundtrack coming through your bedroom window? window.

I was called out by these bells and had to go and explore this town and the cathedral itself.

I mean, San Lise, it's basically a medieval time capsule.

Cobblestone streets everywhere, you know, stone walled convent. It actually was the medieval capital of the Frankian kings and the cathedral Notre Dame.

Completely beautiful inside. A lot of this audio that I recorded for this episode

is from in and outside of that cathedral. But when I was inside that cathedral, just soaking it up,

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