Hi, I'm Dr. Scott Hawn, and I want to welcome you to The Road to Amas, a podcast here at the St. Paul Center, filmed in our own studios in our new headquarters, and I'm very excited

today to welcome a dear friend of many years and someone who is quite accomplished in what he has

been doing in his own theological research. Dr. Roger Nutt, it's great to have you.

It's delightful to be here. It's delightful to see the studio in the center

and to spend some time with my professor and someone who's been a great mentor and friend to me.

Well, thank you for those kind words, but I need to thank you also for the accomplishments that

you have done with us in partnership over the years. You are the author of many

books, but we are privileged and grateful to be the publishers of To Die Is Gain, a theological

reintroduction to the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick for clergy, laity, caregivers, and everyone

else. It's a marvelous book. And then something along the

same lines, one that you co-edited with your dear friend, Dr. Michael Dauphine, hope and death,

Christian responses, a series of essays. And one of my personal favorites, Thomas Aquinas,

biblical theologian, which you also co-edited

with Michael Dauphine.

And so we are the proud publishers of those books, but you've written a number of others.

But the one that we want to focus on today, you didn't write, but you wrote the introduction

for it.

And it is an introduction that is so clear and so thorough. And I'm so

grateful because we have embarked upon a major project in publishing the Church of the Word

Incarnate, which is a multi-volume work by Charles Cardinal Jornay. Can you tell us a little bit about Cardinal Jornae

and your exposure to his work, your use of his work, but also your appreciation of this man

who is probably the single greatest Catholic ecclesiologist of the 20th century.

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