The case for thinking like a child
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox Media Podcast Network
4.5 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 27 April 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What to Make of a Life is the new book from Jim Collins, best-selling author of Good to Great. |
| 0:07.0 | Based on 10 years of research, What to Make of a Life offers transformative teachings on what it takes to navigate your way through periods of fog, |
| 0:15.2 | make it past life's inevitable cliffs, and keep the inner fire burning bright, long, and late. |
| 0:21.5 | Step into frame with What to Make of a Life, the Instant New York Times bestseller by Jim Collins, |
| 0:27.3 | available from Harper Edge wherever books are sold. |
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| 0:39.3 | There for those all-night study sessions, the moment you're working from a cafe and realise every outlet's taken. |
| 0:47.3 | The times you're deep in your flow and can't be interrupted by an auto update. |
| 0:52.3 | That's why we build tech that adapts to you, |
| 0:55.5 | built with a long-lasting battery so you're not scrambling for an outlet, |
| 0:59.6 | and built in intelligence that makes updates around your schedule, |
| 1:03.0 | not in the middle of it. |
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| 1:08.4 | forward slash Dell PCs. Built for you. Imagine you're walking down the street with |
| 1:17.2 | your three-year-old daughter. You're trying to get somewhere, maybe work, maybe the gym, wherever. |
| 1:24.4 | But she's not. She stops for a crack in the sidewalk or some random stick on the ground, |
| 1:31.0 | or maybe an airplane zooming by. Of course, you're getting annoyed because she's distracted, |
| 1:37.8 | and it's holding you up. But the truth is that she's not actually distracted. |
| 1:45.0 | She's just noticing way more than you are. |
| 1:49.0 | We tend to think of childhood as this period of immaturity, |
| 1:53.0 | that we have to outgrow so that we can eventually become rational, productive adults. |
| 2:06.1 | But what if that's the wrong way to think about childhood? |
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