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The Futur with Chris Do

The Business of Creative Leadership w/ Geoff Cook | Ep 397

The Futur with Chris Do

The Futur

Arts, Education, Marketing, Design, Business, Self-improvement

4.9998 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Futur Podcast, Chris Do sits down with Geoff Cook, founder of Base Design New York, to explore the art of world-building through branding. Geoff recounts his early days at DKNY, where he learned the fundamentals of brand, culture, and retail experience before co-founding Base around the turn of the millennium. Together, they discuss how his marketing background shaped his approach to strategy and storytelling—skills that continue to guide his creative leadership today. Geoff shares insights on the intersection of design, business, and emotion, emphasizing how understanding brand perception drives everything from positioning to execution. Timestamps (00:00) - Intro (03:34) - Breaking into DKNY fashion (07:09) - Founding Base Design New York (10:44) - Lessons from brand culture (14:19) - Growth through early leadership (17:54) - Adapting to creative disruption (21:29) - What AI can’t replace (25:04) - The rise of world-building (28:39) - Story behind Matcha Brand “12” (32:14) - Creating immersive brand worlds (35:49) - Speaking business as designers (39:24) - Defining brand perception clearly (42:59) - Research and market positioning (46:34) - Aligning stakeholders for success (50:09) - Writing effective creative briefs (53:44) - Managing client misalignment issues (57:19) - Turning strategy into business growth (01:00:54) - Measuring creative brand success (01:04:29) - Future of branding with AI Check out today's guest, Geoff Cook: LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoff-cook-b587804 Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.basedesign.com/ Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/geoffreycook/?hl=en Check out The Futur: Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Courses: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thefutur.com/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thefutur.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out Chris Do: Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Threads:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zaap: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Clubhouse:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.clubhouse.com/@thechrisdo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Behance: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.behance.net/chrisdo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today I'm joined by Jeff Cook. He's a founder of Base, New York. I'm super excited to talk to him because we're going to talk about brand and branding and maybe even like world building.

0:11.1

I'm Jeff Cook. You are listening to the future.

0:17.0

Jeff, welcome to the show for the people who don't know who you are. Can you please introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your backstory.

0:23.6

Thanks so much, Chris. thrilled to be here. Backstory, it's the early 90s and I went to work for a little brand called DKNY.

0:32.6

And as luck would have it, it became sort of one of the hottest brands on the planet. And during my

0:38.1

tenure there, I learned not only about all things brands, but a lot of adjacent areas like

0:45.7

retail experience and product and visual merchandising and so on and so forth. So that by the time

0:53.3

LVMH acquired Donna Karen in 99, I sort of was pretty well

0:59.9

versed in all things brand and had a couple of really close friends in Brussels that had an agency

1:05.1

base that I was always fascinated by. And so took a plane over. And after a few Belgian beers ended up at the end of the night

1:14.4

with an agreement on the back of a napkin to open base in New York. And that was right around 2000,

1:21.9

right around the turn of the millennium. Wow. Okay. Some interesting twist and turns here.

1:25.4

Are you a traditionally trained designer? I am not.

1:28.3

I am a traditionally trained marketer and strategist.

1:30.3

And so when you're out of school and you, of all places, why did you land at DK&Y?

1:35.3

I give all credits of my mother who was in fashion and she was sort of a first generation working woman who saw Donna as the apostle for all women. And I learned very early on about her and her

1:48.0

eight easy pieces and her luxurious clothing. And it was almost a fetacom plea that I would end up there.

1:54.9

So some influence and introduction from your mom and then you wind up there. What was the

1:59.4

job process like? Like, How did you get a job

2:02.3

like that? Because now, looking back, I can think of a lot of people who want to work with

2:06.5

like an up-and-coming or an established fashion house. It cannot be that easy to get in. How did you get in?

2:12.0

So funny enough, they were, if you can imagine, Donna Karen was at that time a domestic-only brand.

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