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Last summer, we went to the Brazilian state of a Matto Grosso to get a better feel for

Bruce Rastetter's Brazilian partners.

One of the first things we wanted to understand

because it's at the center of their U.S. operations, too,

is how they're handling land in Brazil.

So there are the Franz Brothers,

Marino-Franes and Paolo France, here, as we can see, and Miguel Vise Hibero.

Ricardo da Costa Carvallo is an indigenous rights activist with the NGO Abrazao Amazonia Nativa, or Upan.

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