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The Owen Jones Podcast

The Boris Johnson Clusterf*ck

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

As Boris Johnson’s premiership is consumed in crisis after his repeated lies about multiple parties in No. 10, is it all over for him? Will he drag the Tories down with him? Are there even worse scandals? Will what comes next be even worse? Can’t imagine what that would look like? (We can).


We are joined by Jolyon Maugham to explain how his Good Law Project successfully exposed the corruption of the government in the courts - and Ellie Mae O’Hagan to talk over what this all means.


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0:00.0

Hello, hello, hello. Now, just eight days before the Prime Minister and his advisors partied

0:15.9

in the Grand Gardens of Number 10 Downing Street, a 45-year-old homeless man was hauled before

0:23.6

the courts for violating lockdown restrictions. He'd been arrested at Liverpool Street

0:29.7

Station. There were other egregious examples. I don't know, the Cara in Somerset, who after looking

0:36.8

after one of her clients, made the cardinal sin of having a sandwich in her car in a beauty spot,

0:45.0

she was fined £200, reduced to tears, unsurprisingly, applauded by politicians amongst them from doorsteps,

0:55.3

balconies for her great sacrifice, underpaid like carers tend to be, and then fined £200 for

1:02.7

having a sandwich. All in all, more than 100,000 fines have been handed out to people in England

1:09.7

alone for an assortment of provinces, not wearing a face covering to mixing with people outside

1:14.8

of your bubble. Needless to say, these fines were not evenly distributed. Black people up to

1:22.4

seven times more likely to be fined by the police for lockdown breaches than white people.

1:28.0

Of the total number fined, 371 have been slapped with the maximum fine of £10,000.

1:38.5

What for? Wait for it. Hosting gatherings of more than 30 people. Now, that's some of money,

1:44.4

£10,000. If you're earning something like, let's just pluck a random figure out the ether, shall we?

1:50.6

Just as a little experiment, if it was say £161,401 your salary, the Prime Minister's salary,

1:59.0

by the way, that's nothing you can afford that, but for most people, in a country of course,

2:04.0

where two thirds of the UK population carry personal debt, 10,000 quid is financially ruinous.

2:11.0

Now, what do we know? We know that the Prime Minister broke the very rules, the laws that he and

2:19.0

his own government imposed on the rest of the population to protect us from a virus,

2:26.3

which, thanks to the government's mismanagement, has killed well over 150,000 of our fellow

2:32.6

citizens. That the way, as in the great tradition of the British state, those laws have been

2:39.6

implemented, same with the war on drugs, same with the way the state clamps down on benefit

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