Kazakhstan: What Is Really Happening?
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 9 January 2022
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
As the dictatorship of Kazakhstan violently cracks down on protesters, what's really going on? What's the role of inequality and poverty - and the broken promises of the free market? Just what is the nature of the governing tyranny - and with Russian intervention, what does this mean for global politics?
Kazakh voices have been far too erased from this coverage. That's why we're talking to sociologist Dr. Diana T. Kudaibergenova to explain what caused this, what's happening on the ground - and what happens next.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the show. Now Kazakhstan is in turmoil after protests when I've swept |
| 0:16.0 | the country and I'd be met by a violent crackdown by the regime. Now this is a country which |
| 0:22.2 | was often portrayed by certain elements as a success story in the region despite nature |
| 0:28.6 | of the dictatorship. Let's just have a little look at some of the footage which we've seen |
| 0:32.8 | come out of the country as the crackdown against the protests has escalated. |
| 0:49.3 | Now, impoverished living standards in the country have long-fuel discontent. The |
| 0:55.4 | average monthly salary there is less than £450 each month and the government announced the |
| 1:01.8 | phasing out of subsidies for petrol. The doubling of cost sparked these initial demonstrations. |
| 1:08.3 | Now, as the journalist Peter Leonard has written in the Guardian, it's a country afflicted by |
| 1:25.4 | huge internal inequalities with the west of the country contributing a huge amount to the |
| 1:30.7 | nation's wealth, but resentful of a lack of investment in basic infrastructure. But the protest |
| 1:37.0 | against the spiraling cost turned quickly into protest against the regime in general targeting |
| 1:43.7 | in terms of the slogans the former president Nazarbayev who formally stood down in 2019 |
| 1:49.4 | that is believed to wield power behind this. |
| 2:07.7 | Now, we can see in here these violent scenes taking place in the country, but the regime has |
| 2:14.2 | shut down the internet and has shut out journalists, so we don't have reliable information |
| 2:21.0 | coming out of the country. We do know that the president, Okavis, portraying the protests as |
| 2:24.6 | terrorists and issuing blood-curdling statements such as we must destroy than this will be done |
| 2:34.2 | soon. Shoot to kill orders have been given, shoot to kill without warning while Russian |
| 2:38.8 | shoots have been deployed at the request of the regime. Now, the regime is claiming order has |
| 2:44.2 | been restored, but as we know, we don't actually have a reliable picture coming out of the country |
| 2:50.9 | given they shut down the internet and they kicked out journalists. Now, we've got a short |
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