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🗓️ 19 January 2022
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0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. |
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0:24.0 | Hello and welcome to Spectators Books Club podcast. I'm Sam Leith, the literary editor of the |
0:28.5 | Spectator and I'm very pleased to be joined this week by the gallerist James Birch, whose new book, |
0:34.2 | Bacon in Moscow, describes his extraordinary attempt to take the works of Francis Bacon in the late 1980s behind the Iron Curtain, |
0:42.4 | the first major exhibition of any Western artist to have happened there since, I guess, about 1917. |
0:48.3 | James, welcome. |
0:49.7 | Thank you. Well, nice to meet you too. |
0:52.7 | To start with, your book's all about Francis Beacon going to Moscow, but he wasn't even the first choice, was he? |
1:00.0 | I mean, it's a sort of a circuitous way in which it ended up being Bacon who went. |
1:04.0 | Well, the extraordinary event was that I went to a party in about 1985, and I don't know very many people that's part. |
1:11.6 | I bumped to this friend of mine and he said, what are you up to? |
1:14.6 | And I had this gallery and I had sort of 10 young artists that I really wanted to promote. |
1:19.6 | And I said to him, I'm taking them to New York. |
1:22.6 | And he said, why take them to New York? Why don't you take them to Moscow? |
1:24.6 | And I said, how do you do that? And he told me, what you have to do is go to the Soviet section of UNESCO and look out for this man called |
1:31.9 | Sergei Klochoff, which is exactly what I did. And so I took Sergei Klochoff out for lunch and some other |
1:39.2 | people. And I showed him in those days, you had slides and sort of odd photographs, and so not like with a computer nowadays. And I showed him this sort of portfolio. In those days, you had slides and sort of odd photographs. |
1:44.6 | It was very, not like with a computer nowadays. |
1:47.6 | And I showed him the work and he said, okay, that's good. |
1:50.2 | And he told me who to write to because lots of people tried to have exhibitions in Moscow |
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