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Hello and welcome to the edition podcast from The Spectator. Every week we take a look at some of the most important and intriguing stories from the issue with the writers behind them. I'm Laura Prendergars, the Spectator's executive editor. And I'm William Moore, the Spectator's Features Editor. This week, will the Red Wall crush Boris Johnson? Plus, how to save the BBC.

And finally, is it moral to do good with bad money?

First up, in this week's spectator, our political editor James Wolseith and our deputy political editor, Katie Bulls, report on the plots to oust the Prime Minister by Red Wall MPs and Number 10's battle to save Boris.

They both join us now.

Katie, ever since the start of Partygate, we've heard lots about disgruntled Tories.

But in your cover piece this week, you focus on a plot against Boris Johnson from one particular group, the Red Wall Tory MPs. Why is this

group so angry? So this is the 2019 intake of Tory MPs and they're a mix. So I think the ones

got the most attention are the Red Wall MPs and those obviously MPs with seats in the Midlands and North, which many in a way point or credit Boris Johnson for realigning politics by winning those seats a little over two years ago.

What's really interesting this week is there has been a sense that there's lots of, you know, feebrile Tories.

I think you often see the word feebrile tories i think you often see

the word febrile in twitter and a copy but downing street ultimately thought they would have you know

plenty of time before the sue gray report to really and to not really have to worry about confidence

vote any that reaching 54 letters is what you need to trigger a confidence vote.

And then there was quite a lot of panic on Tuesday because all of a sudden, the whips

ministers got with the pork pie plot.

Now, the pork pie plot is actually a very weak joke just because one of the MPs involved,

who is not a Redwall MP, and it has, you know, the of Port Pires in her seat. But 20 MPs, predominantly

those from the Red Wall met and they were discussing Boris Johnson's future. They had a secret

ballot where they all put in whether or not they had put a letter in already and about half had

and more considered doing so. And this led to talk that actually they could reach 54 letters.

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