The Blockspace Pod: The Shortest Bear Market Ever w/ Matt Hougan of Bitwise

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🗓️ 19 February 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise, breaks down why we’re still in a crypto winter, the truth about central bank gold buying, and why Bitcoin’s revenue problem doesn’t matter… yet. We dive into the Kevin Warsh Fed era, quantum risks, and the rise of AI agents. Get your tickets to OPNEXT 2026 before prices increase! Join us on April 16 in NYC for technical discussions, investor talks, and intimate conversation with the brightest minds in Bitcoin. Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise, joins us to talk about the current state of the crypto winter and when the bottom is finally in. We explore the digital gold narrative, explaining why central bank buying—not debasement—drove gold’s recent surge. Matt details the institutional vs. retail divide, the impact of Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, and the looming debate over Bitcoin’s security budget. Plus, we tackle the quantum discount and how AI agents could 1000x on-chain activity. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Notes: * Altcoins like Sui and Aptos fell 70%+ in 2025. * Institutions might end the winter by Q2 2026. * BTC volatility capped at 50-60% drawdowns. * Gold price surge driven by central bank buys. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 03:22 Is it still "crypto winter"? 04:34 Why January? 06:36 Market segments 08:31 Gold 10:54 Central banks & Bitcoin 12:56 Causes of the crash 14:52 Kevin Warsh 16:58 Fed hawks become doves 17:34 Quantum... oh so scary! 19:59 Bitcoin Core 21:44 Revenue 24:37 Beyond "digital gold" narrative 26:44 AI 👉CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin Miner! CleanSpark (Nasdaq: CLSK) is a market-leading data center developer with a proven track record of success. We own a portfolio of power, land, and data centers across the United States powered by globally competitive energy prices. Sitting at the intersection of Bitcoin, energy, operational excellence and capital stewardship, we optimize our infrastructure to deliver superior returns to our shareholders. Monetizing low-cost, high reliability energy by producing a global emerging critical resource – compute – positions us to prosper in an ever-changing world.

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0:00.0	Bitcoin has branded itself as digital gold. I think it's a strong thesis, but like we kind of tied
0:05.5	ourselves to the mast of making the analogy of Bitcoin to gold. What caught the debasement trade this
0:11.0	past year? It was gold. What drove the price of gold up was actually central bank buying. It jumped up
0:16.2	after the Russia-Ukraine invasion when the U.S. seized Russia's treasury assets. And all of a sudden,
0:22.8	central banks needed a way to gain exposure to the market outside of fiat currencies. They started
0:27.5	buying gold. They persisted buying gold in 22, 23, 24, and eventually they exhausted supply and
0:34.1	the price skyrocketed to the moon. But I don't think it was a debasement trade.
0:38.0	I don't think people suddenly started freaking out about debasement. Debasement is sort of a
0:43.4	boil the frog phenomenon. Incrementally, people get more worried about that. I think ultimately
0:48.9	Bitcoin will serve as digital gold because its fundamental characteristics fit that environment.
0:56.0	And I think it'll do just fine.
0:57.6	It just suffered from it had a negative four-year cycle effect.
1:00.7	At the same time, gold had this self-custody for central banks, bull market.
1:05.4	And so it looks bad on the chart.
1:06.9	Over time, we'll catch right back up.
1:10.6	Matt Hogan, CIO of Bitwise, says that Bitcoin is in a crypto bear market, but that might
1:17.9	be ending sooner than you think. Matt and I talk about a lot of interesting things, quantum
1:23.5	Bitcoin. We talk about crypto's changing narratives. We talk about Bitcoin's revenue problem and
1:29.5	the debasement trade may still be on the menu for Bitcoin. This is a really fascinating
1:34.9	conversation. I think you will like it. Blockspace podcast is brought to you by CleanSpark,
1:40.7	America's Bitcoin Minor. More on them. Later in the show. Let's kick it off.
1:50.1	Hey, Charlie here.
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