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We are coming to you from ConsenSys Hong Kong with our next guest, founder and CEO of Consensus

and co-founder of Ethereum, Joseph Lubin. Joe, how's it going? Great. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. Welcome to Consensus Hong Kong. I'm very excited to have you here. Just talk to us about what you've been up to. How are you experiencing the event so far? So got here three days ago. Okay. Hong Kong feels to me a bit like it did, quite a lot like it did pre-COVID.

I haven't been here in the last few years.

I've been attending different events, interviews, lots of meetings.

And this morning is the first time I've been walking the floor and very, very trad-fine, which is great, which is, I think, the theme that we at consensus are experiencing in America.

So we're interacting with and building with lots of financial institutions in addition to doing what we do normally, which is build out Metamask and other products and essentially serve the real decentralized protocol ecosystem for retail.

I think I saw a photo of you on social media with Tom Lee. We shared it on the air

earlier today. It was in New York City, actually. Oh, was that in New York? Yeah, we saw each other at JFK on the way here.

Oh, wow. We're actually on the same flight, which is probably not something that should be allowed.

Yeah, the two pillars of Ethereum on the same flight. Seems like a risk. He's doing such an amazing job, and I'm associated with Ethereum also. And, yeah, if there was anything untoward that happened, that would be bad. Well, I'm glad that you both made it to Hong Kong safely. You are here. Well rested, too. Well rested and safe. That's all we can hope for.

I know you're going to be speaking on stage later today on how Defi will become

Phi.

And I think that builds off of a little bit of what you were just talking to us about.

Give us a little bit of preview about the insights you're going to share on stage.

Sure.

So what we do currently is mostly focused on Metamask,

and Metamask started life as what I like to think of as a digital authority tool,

essentially enabling you to sign transactions and messages on Ethereum and other blockchain systems. It evolved to

becoming a wallet, and that's how most people think about Madamaask, a wallet, a fully

featured portfolio manager. But over the last year, it's rapidly become a fully featured

financial services platform, a new kind of neobank, but it's a

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