Dr. Zach Bush and Charles Eisenstein are two of the men that I admire most in this world.

Both have radically unique perspectives on our health, on our thriving.

Zach Bush coming from a medical perspective that does not even resemble what traditional medicine resembles.

And of course, Charles Eisenstein, one of the great philosophers about the myths, the stories,

the ways in which we could think about the world in a way that brings about a more beautiful world.

To get to sit down with both of them in the same conversation was absolutely magical,

and I can't wait to share this podcast with all of you.

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