Welcome to the Eat This Not That podcast, brought to you by Bob's Red Mill.

I'm John Hammond, and this is Megan Murphy.

How you doing?

And this episode is all about firing it up, the grill that is, because the temps are finally

rising here in the northeast.

And it's a summer cookout kind of feel.

I actually fired the grill up this weekend yesterday. And it's that time of year where, you know, after you spend a solid afternoon cleaning the grill, you feel compelled to use it, right? Oh, you have to use it, of course. Because if you don't clean the grill, well, that's a whole other episode. Yeah. And dangerous, by the way. So you should clean your grill if you haven't already. But, you know, for me, this time of year can be a little dicey because you're outside, you know, in a cookout vibe, you're with friends,

the beer cooler is right there. Like you don't have to walk to the fridge. It's just like so easy

and it's hot and you're thirsty. So the calories and can can quickly stack up and whether that's

burgers and chips and dips and salads

and beers and you know the desserts that that some friends might bring it's it's easy to kind

of hurt yourself at a cookout right health isn't always first and foremost at a cookout for sure

right but it doesn't have to be that way right right. Right. Cookout should be fun. It should be

delicious. It should be enjoyable. And thankfully, we have some tips, you know, because whether it's,

it's the hot dogs, the potato salads, it's just the smorgasbord of foods that kick off summer

can be all pretty tasty. But as we said, a little dangerous for your waistline if you're not

careful. And if you pick the wrong items, then it goes, it's easy to pick the wrong items, I guess, because you're not really thinking about it in that setting, nor should you be. So here we can think about it, we can talk about it, we can set you up so you can stock up on the things that, you know, you can make those decisions now that will protect your waistline later and you'll still enjoy the cookout. Let's do it. You'll still have a ton of fun. So let's start with category one, which is chips because who goes to a cookout and doesn't have a big bowl of chips there, right? At least a big bowl of chips. You've got to have the salty. It doesn't help with the cooler trips. But it's interesting.

Chips is one of those things where you're not going to save a lot of ground there.

So you might as well, you got to be careful because there's a lot of quote-unquote healthy

sounding products out there that, you know, whether it's organic or whole grain or gluten-free,

it just doesn't make it that much better at the end of the day, right? Yeah, and it's organic or whole grain or gluten-free, it just, it doesn't make it that

much better at the end of the day, right? Yeah, and it's usually mindless munching with chips. You're

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