The best conversation I’ve had about the election, with Molly Ball
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox Media Podcast Network
4.5 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 4 October 2016
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains explicit language. |
| 0:03.3 | Hello and welcome to another episode of The Ezra Client Show. |
| 0:15.0 | This episode is the single best conversation about the election that I have had with anybody. |
| 0:20.1 | It is with Molly Ball, who is a political reporter at The Atlantic and is one of my favorite |
| 0:25.1 | political writers. |
| 0:26.1 | I read her work religiously. |
| 0:28.1 | She just wrote a piece on a subject that is very close to my heart about whether campaigns |
| 0:32.8 | actually matter. |
| 0:33.8 | I think one of the things that Donald Trump campaign is forcing us to wonder, or maybe |
| 0:37.6 | the Donald Trump non-campaign as the case may be, is forcing us to wonder is whether |
| 0:43.0 | all that money that's getting spent on ads and messaging and field games and get out |
| 0:48.6 | the vote and all the rest of the constituent parts of a campaign are doing as much to push |
| 0:53.9 | candidates over the edge as we think given the fact that Trump is doing almost none of it |
| 0:59.0 | and is roughly even with Hillary Clinton, maybe a couple points behind. |
| 1:02.7 | So we talk about that. |
| 1:03.7 | We also just have a very deep long discussion about Trump, about Trumpism, about what it |
| 1:09.0 | means for America right now. |
| 1:10.9 | Molly gives, I think, the single best description of his appeal, particularly his economic |
| 1:14.7 | appeal that I have heard from anyone anywhere. |
| 1:16.6 | I will be thinking about it for quite a long time to come. |
| 1:20.2 | We talk about Hillary Clinton to talk about what we've learned about the electorate, whether |
| 1:23.7 | there is a floor in American politics, guardrails, whether politics is about ideas or identity. |
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