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Rational Security

The “Berry Boy Blue” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

This week, Scott sat down with Rational Security veterans and Lawfare colleagues Benjamin Wittes and Molly Reynolds to talk through the week’s big national security news, including:

  • “House Odds.” Speaker of the House Mike Johnson scored an unlikely win last week, when he kept the narrow (and notoriously fractious) Republican house majority united enough to pass its own continuing resolution to keep the government open—and then successfully got enough Democrats to acquiesce to debate on it for it to pass through the Senate without amendment. What does this tell us about the current dynamics in Congress—and what the Democratic minority in either chamber might realistically hope to achieve moving forward?
  • “This Pressure Goes to Eleven.” The Trump administration amped up military operations in the Middle East this week, taking out a senior ISIS leader in Iraq, pursuing an aggressive set of airstrikes against the Houthis in Yemen, and greenlighting a renewal of Israeli hostilities in Gaza, seemingly ending the weeks-long ceasefire that had prevailed there. The common thread across all three sets of action seems to be Iran, a regime that the Trump administration has both socked with a return of maximum pressure sanctions and sought to engage on possible negotiations over its nuclear program. Is this new maximum maximum-pressure campaign likely to work? What risks and benefits does it present?
  • “Saying the Quiet Part Incredibly Loud and at Length.” President Trump gave an unprecedented speech at the Justice Department last week, where he spent over an hour misrepresenting the criminal cases that had been made against him prior to his rising to the presidency and naming specific individuals as enemies who he indicated should be arrested. What motivated his address? And what will it mean for the campaign of vengeance he is slowly rolling out against his perceived political enemies?

In object lessons, Molly momentarily set aside her usual evangelism for regional NPR-affiliate podcasts to champion Good Politics/Bad Politics, a Substack deep-dive into U.S. elections and governance by Jonathan Bernstein, Julia Azari, and David S. Bernstein. Scott, ever the escapist, steered clear of wands and wizardry but still embraced fantasy with Lev Grossman’s “The Bright Sword.” And Ben lamented the recent gutting of Voice of America—only to note that those voices haven’t vanished. They’re just looking for a new frequency.

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0:00.0

So, Molly, I don't know. You're a fellow parent of young children, current young children,

0:05.3

and I'm wondering if you've encountered this phenomenon that I has like creeped its way into my

0:10.9

refrigerator in the last year. And I am just so increasingly struck by it every time I open up

0:15.9

my produce bin, which is at like all of a sudden Washington, D.C. is completely besotten

0:20.8

with the most

0:21.5

gigantic blueberries you've ever seen in your entire life. Do you know what I'm talking about?

0:25.4

It's like a Wegman's thing, I think. Weigman's open in town. All of a sudden, giant blueberries

0:29.3

are everywhere, and I can't figure it out. My own child has moved out of Peak berry phase. Oh, that's, that makes me so sad, actually. He's just a little older than

0:39.5

my son. I love peak berry phase. I've never had so many antioxidants and vitamin C in my system.

0:45.5

Wait, what is a giant blue? How giant is a giant blueberry? Like grape size? Bigger. I get some

0:54.0

that are like, there's a few I could do in multiple bites.

0:57.1

Like, these are giant, giant blueberries, and it's insane to me.

0:59.9

And I don't understand where they're coming from or how they're happening.

1:02.7

Are you sure they're not plums?

1:05.1

They're not quite that big, although we're trending in that direction.

1:08.8

I do think they're slowly getting bigger. I haven't taken out a ruler yet, but I may start because it is just like every time I get another

1:15.8

grocery order, they're just a little bit bigger. Does the berry stage go away, Ben? Are you still

1:20.1

like eating berries from when your kids were young kids? Does it like- Or more appropriately,

1:24.6

are you still spending a non-trivial amount of your paycheck on berries for your child?

1:30.1

Well, my children don't live at home. I don't really have to keep them in berries.

1:36.0

I mean, I still eat berries, but I don't feel like the need to supply other people with berries is a big part of my present existence.

1:45.0

That makes me sad. I love my new berry fixation.

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